If I ever needed evidence...
Nov. 25th, 2005 07:37 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ailsa_chanThat the calibre of students at Bath Uni is diminishing, I found it in impact this week.
There was a creationist writing in there.
For anyone who has not come across these people before, they are religieous fanatics who don't believe in evolution. They come in a few forms from the ones who belive the earth is 6000 years old and God did it exactly as in Genesis, to preponents of Intelligent Design who say that most of science is correct, but living things are too complex to have been created though natural means alone.
This isn't a rant about Christianity, by the way as I know most Christians in this country at least are sensible intelligent peopel. I also know there are Muslim creationists and I supect there may be Jewish ones (though I've never heard of any.) I don't even particulally mind if people want to believe the earth is flat, in the centre of the solar sytem and 6000 years old or whatever. What i object to is people who think that is this a vaild scientific viewpoint that needs to be taught to children.
The artical starts:
"Once again, the failures of evolutionary theory expose itself as a humanistic construction designed to squash the problem of who we are."
NO, evolution is a scientific thoery to explain the diversity of the species on the planet. Nothing more. There is no morality of it, any more than there is to the theory of gravity.
Dawin himself was a deist at the time he was travelling on the Beagal and making his observations. He later lost his faith, but that was largely due to the death of his daughter, not because he thought we were "the product of random processes, an uncooridnated jumble of chance."
The aticle makes no attempt to refute evoltion, but instead makes an emotional appeal that evolution is a way to get out of your responsiblity to God. If you belive in evolution then you're just a monkey so you can do whatever you like !!!!111!1!
He also says "The inescapability of a moral dimention demands an Arbiter thant exists above any man or woman to define right and wrong."
If such a being exists, why then is morality so varied across cultures. Hell, I bet there's variety of morality in my friends list. Funnily, since Darwins book was published, civiliation has not gone to shit. There are still lots of Christians who consider themselves accountable before God, and plenty of us who don't, and wouldn't do even if evolution was false.
Anyway. I'll stop ranting now.
But only as I have to start work.
There was a creationist writing in there.
For anyone who has not come across these people before, they are religieous fanatics who don't believe in evolution. They come in a few forms from the ones who belive the earth is 6000 years old and God did it exactly as in Genesis, to preponents of Intelligent Design who say that most of science is correct, but living things are too complex to have been created though natural means alone.
This isn't a rant about Christianity, by the way as I know most Christians in this country at least are sensible intelligent peopel. I also know there are Muslim creationists and I supect there may be Jewish ones (though I've never heard of any.) I don't even particulally mind if people want to believe the earth is flat, in the centre of the solar sytem and 6000 years old or whatever. What i object to is people who think that is this a vaild scientific viewpoint that needs to be taught to children.
The artical starts:
"Once again, the failures of evolutionary theory expose itself as a humanistic construction designed to squash the problem of who we are."
NO, evolution is a scientific thoery to explain the diversity of the species on the planet. Nothing more. There is no morality of it, any more than there is to the theory of gravity.
Dawin himself was a deist at the time he was travelling on the Beagal and making his observations. He later lost his faith, but that was largely due to the death of his daughter, not because he thought we were "the product of random processes, an uncooridnated jumble of chance."
The aticle makes no attempt to refute evoltion, but instead makes an emotional appeal that evolution is a way to get out of your responsiblity to God. If you belive in evolution then you're just a monkey so you can do whatever you like !!!!111!1!
He also says "The inescapability of a moral dimention demands an Arbiter thant exists above any man or woman to define right and wrong."
If such a being exists, why then is morality so varied across cultures. Hell, I bet there's variety of morality in my friends list. Funnily, since Darwins book was published, civiliation has not gone to shit. There are still lots of Christians who consider themselves accountable before God, and plenty of us who don't, and wouldn't do even if evolution was false.
Anyway. I'll stop ranting now.
But only as I have to start work.
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Re: bath students?
Date: 2005-11-28 02:29 pm (UTC)But I also feel that due to the university getting funding based on bums on seats, they have to cater to the lowest common denominator. This was very obvious in my degree, when very basic subjects went straight over the heads over several people. It wasn't their fault, they just shouldn't have been doing the degree. I learned very little in my first and second year, it was largely stuff I covered at A level.
Its not just the creationists that make me feel that the calibre of students is deminsihing, its just that this is qualifiable evidence. I've seen students work their socks off, and I've seen others who sit there "I can't be bothered to revise / study / do coursework I'll do it later." Yet both are likely to come out with a degree from a top rated university. I don't think employers look much at the classification of the degree (oxbridge don't even give a classification). I blame tuition fees for a large chunk of this. However, that's a rant for a different day.
Re: bath students?
Date: 2005-11-28 06:54 pm (UTC)*i SO get the last word* *pout*